Let me know how it works out when your kid/wife/uncle who is not good at negotiating goes to buy a car at a dealer and pays more just because they can't/don't want to sit and play "the game" for 7 hours. I can say that no matter how good of a deal I've gotten in the past, I've never had a positive dealer experience. Time for change. Funny that you think the dealers care about improving the cars, when most of their profit comes from fixing the problems that arise from the car. Tesla not only listens to their customers but actually makes improvements based on this feedback (see addition of creep mode and hill assist). BTW- How'd that dealer feedback help out with the GM ignition problem?